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Post by Plustone Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:31 pm

I am a fan of Patrick Eggle guitars made in the 1990s. If you would like to know more about them in general, click here. The link will take you to an information page, which can be used to access the Patrick Eggle Guitars - the Legendary Years forum.

My main guitar is a 1993 Patrick Eggle Berlin Pro fitted with Bare Knuckle Mules with push/pull on the volume and tone to tap the neck or bridge pickups. Further details and photos can be found by clicking here.

I also use a 1993 Patrick Eggle Los Angeles Pro II (a Strat variant) for Shadows numbers (this can be found here) and a 1992 Patrick Eggle Berlin Deluxe with Bare Knuckle Geoff Whitehorn Crawlers (click here).

If anyone is still awake and interested, details of all my guitars, equipment, etc. can be found here
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Post by MusashiChan Mon Jun 07, 2010 5:28 pm

To be honest, i didn't knew this brand. We can learn everyday !!!
Thanks for the links and infos ! (And stop commenting your pics as old, jurassic, aged....you rock !!!! that's all !!!) cheers
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Post by aussie2009 Tue Jun 08, 2010 6:16 am

Plustone wrote:I am a fan of Patrick Eggle guitars made in the 1990s.

nice guitars,very unique looking,love the collection as well,if you have trouble storing some of them you can alway's send a few to me!cheers
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Post by Plustone Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:26 am

aussie2009 wrote:nice guitars,very unique looking,love the collection as well ...
Thanks, Aussie Very Happy.

aussie2009 wrote:... if you have trouble storing some of them you can alway's send a few to me!cheers
I could probably hire a warehouse for less than the cost of transport Rolling Eyes.
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Post by aussie2009 Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:59 am

Plustone wrote: I could probably hire a warehouse for less than the cost of transport Rolling Eyes.

yeah we could make a lotta noise with your gear that's for sure! Very Happy affraid
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Post by MusashiChan Tue Jun 08, 2010 1:56 pm

It's strange how i needed to sell all my guitars about 2 years ago...
I had some very nice ones, LP Slash, Ibanez JS1000, ES135 and a 70 reissue Strat...i flet no need to have those at home (was working in a music shop...) so i sold them.
No i prefer having my two ultimate amps (to me) and my Strat...sort of return to the roots...
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Post by MusashiChan Fri Jun 18, 2010 8:55 pm

http://www.guitariste.com/forums/achat-vente-echange,patrick-eggle-new-york-standard-1993,372217.html

It's a french sale, as i have understood, it's the legendary years you are talking about ?? no ?
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Post by Plustone Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:26 pm

MusashiChan wrote:lIt's a french sale, as i have understood, it's the legendary years you are talking about ?? no ?
Yes, Yann, it is a "Legendary Years" guitar. On our forum, the legendary years are the 1990s and this was made in 1993, so it is perfect.

The New York was the budget, "work horse" model of the range and the Standard was a mid-range specification for the New Yorks. The build quality was as high as all Patrick Eggles (at least equivalent to PRS), the reduced price being achieved by having a more simple design and less exotic woods.

We know of 40 New York Standards that have been sold in just over 5 years. The most expensive was £435 and the cheapest £226, the average being £320. At the present exchange rate, 590 E is equivalent to about £490, which makes this one a little expensive.

This guitar is not like those made today and the seller must know this because he has not referred prospective buyers to the present factory, but has provided a link to to the cover page of "Patrick Eggle Guitars - The Legendary Years", which is one of the pages I referred you to for information. To know this is the correct site, the seller must have done some homework!
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Post by Plustone Sat Jun 19, 2010 10:11 am

Corrections and update to the above:

The New York Standard was bottom of the range, not mid-range.

Both the original pickups would have been Kent Armstrong. The Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates is a modification, probably an improvement.

Patrick Eggle was at the factory in 1993, as the seller says, but he almost certainly did not build it himself. This does not detract from the guitar in any way, as they had some very talented luthiers there at the time.

New, the guitar would have cost £469 (a very good price for such a well made guitar). It does not appear to have been fitted with any optional extras, but a Hiscox fitted hard case would have cost an extra £79.50.

If we could discover the serial number, I may be able to find out some of its history since it was sold.
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Post by MusashiChan Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:55 am

I's amazing to find all those infos !!
I'm asking the seller the serial to see if you can investigate on this one Very Happy
Thanks a lot !! And how much would you pay for such a guitar ?
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Post by Plustone Sat Jun 19, 2010 12:58 pm

MusashiChan wrote:I'm asking the seller the serial to see if you can investigate ...
That's good! If we haven't heard of it before, it will add to our pool of knowledge. If we have heard of it before, I will be able to let you know whatever we know.

MusashiChan wrote:And how much would you pay for such a guitar ?
As I said before, the seller is asking rather a lot compared with the prices achieved so far. However, each guitar is worth whatever anyone is prepared to pay for it and if there is someone looking for this particular model in France, he may achieve his price. To answer your question, I don't want to buy it and so I wouldn't make an offer. If the seller really wanted to attract attention on Ebay, for instance, he should set the Buy It Now (B.I.N.) between £350 (420 E) and £375 (449 E) and be prepared to accept £315 (377 E) to £340 (407 E).
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Post by MusashiChan Sun Jun 20, 2010 1:58 pm

Hi,

Here is the serial ! Smile Serial n° 92 338
If you can tell me more !!
Thanks a lot !
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Post by Plustone Sun Jun 20, 2010 5:23 pm

Thanks, Yann. We haven't seen this one before, but I can tell you that the full serial number is probably NY 92 338. This means that it was actually made in 1992 and not 1993 as the seller suggests. This is not important and doesn't have any implications for this guitar for the better or worse, it just happens to be so.

All I can add to what I have already told you is that we have a record of a New York Pro being sold in France in March 2006 for £352. At the time, a euro would have cost between 70p and 75p (I don't remember exactly, but this would not be too far off). This equates to between 469 E and 502E and so you might think the asking price for this guitar is not as excessive as I have suggested. However, the new York Pro is a higher specification guitar and so you would expect the Standard to be less.
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Post by MusashiChan Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:43 pm

Thanks a lot...have to negotiate now Smile but i have ammo, it's very nice !
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Post by Plustone Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:51 am

MusashiChan wrote:Thanks a lot...have to negotiate now Smile but i have ammo, it's very nice !
The New York is a superb little guitar, Yann, but if you really want to benefit from the Patrick Eggle experience, you should try a Berlin Pro (provides good simulations of a Les Paul, Strat and Tele) or a Los Angeles Pro II (a "better than Fender" Strat).
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Post by MusashiChan Tue Jun 22, 2010 12:18 pm

As you said, i would like to have a real iconic one if i buy one. the price is still too high for this i think. Just waiting the price to drop Smile
thanks !
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